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(the first one hem or limonn they umunoo abag they will call the name and they don't, they leave it nothing, the baby feeds until teeth appear and it speaks, and they tie up some meat. when the naming time comes, there's a wanbel with knives and spoons, trousers, necklace they get. one just gets a name, one gets a name from dad, one gets a name. there's gifts and a wanbel. that's for the first child, after that the name is just put.
you give a name on day 3?
no a long time, 1 year or something. you guys give a name quickly, but we wait a long time)
(we don't call the name in the womb, when it's born we call the name, it is hidden until the baby cries, people don't hear the name it comes clear after. that's for the first one, after that we just give names, but they are spoken after they are born. )
(their uncle - mothers side - does, the firstborn. i will name one of aivan's kids. kigwam was named by his uncles. after that we just name them, mum and dad pick the name)
(we give some kids mum and dad names, we name others after a brother. kigwam, the name ulumo chose was holunann's dad's name. i chose jack, moses, pindom, enin and rose as names. our ancestors allowed uncles to name firstborns, or the next child if something went wrong with the first. after that parents name them.)
(body is kagu kis. yes we have wononn, mokis tol ab yogumo igu is spirit. see philip's house, that's kagu you see, but philip kis is inside. do chickens have a spirit? yes, and so they talk and move around, but we're not sure about it.)
(in their mother's womb. the body is there, but the blood isn't, when the blood comes in and all the parts are finished they are born. what about stillborns? i don't really know. if the his comes the child will talk. the child could also get sick and not get blood, but if the child cries then they become a person.)
(i have two names, kavaluku and ibinn. my name i've spoken to a brother, to the child 3 we've spoken, 1 we left, 1 was my parents and 1 was uncle. i have 2 names, one my tambus will speak, ulumo. my kids will say ulumo's name, can ulumo say ibinn? no. ulumo can't say either of my names, but aiven and domol can. does aiven say kavaluku or ibinn? he says homom)
(everyone has 2 names. is 1 a tumbuna name and 1 a town name? 1 comes from the bible moses, paul, ham, david, noah. when we go to town we use a different name. moses has 2 names, pindom has 2 names, 1 is named after nambi so i can't say it - weniyam. i can't say that so i call him pindom. moses is also called tubulu, jack is also called was, rose is also mandela, but kigwam and eni have just one name. do you have two names aiven? yes i'm also obo, domol has 1 name, gina has 1 name. oya is also called elismamul, that's one i can call.
do you say your name is aiben in town? yes, that's my name. do some people call you obo? yes who? pebe, most people call me aiben.
kavaluku - my town name is yegiba, i have three names. i named a kid in pusila that)
(yes when we go to the nambis we get new names, but here we use our old names. our names might be hard to pronounce and we pick new names? kogoonat is maturing slowly, people grow slowly.
do some kids get tired of their names and change them? yes we do that, our fathers used to do this. they would get fire, say some stuff and they'd leave the old name behind and give a new name by drawing fire around the baby. )