Talking to leaders when there is sickness

last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:57 p.m. by Steve

3-8 Health & Sickness

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Amon - talking to leaders when there is sickness
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(if a kid is sick we go to the leaders and put our thinking. we put our thinking and they get better. tell us about this sick and we'll listen. sickness hits our kids and your kids. if we break some talk we get sick, but if we put our thinking to the leaders the child will get better. we'll make a wanbel. we wouldn't know what to do so we get the wanbel thinking and do it. we put our thinking and are sorry and give that sorry to god)

Silas - leaders work in sickness
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(if someone is sick and we want them to be better we put thinking and leave it. sometimes we put water and say our thinking, when that's done some people wash. the water is just water, we put it and put our bad thinking and get good thinking and wash. do you talk to the leaders? we talk to the leaders, we all do that)

Sibil - my work as a leader
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(i do a big work, people with heavy thinking come and we work with it. sick people do this, parents bring their children and put their thinking, they put it clearly. when they are done we put some knowledge, we say the leaders think like this, we've heard and the thinking is done. if done right the child gets better. we leaders hear the talk and they follow our ideas, we hear their hevis and give our thoughts. we tell them about god and jisas and what he did, jisas said this and that and give them talk true, they hear, the leaders speak, get good thinking and you'll get better. small sickness get better on their own, but big sicknesses involve the leaders )

Ningalam, leaders helping with sickness
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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( they do this, they come to ulumo and put their thinking, when it is clear we go to you guys and get medicine. if it's not sickness, but a cut leg or something some will put thinking and some won't, if it's a sickness or a big sore they'll put thinking to the leaders and afterwards get medicine from you guys and get better if there's no sick and there's nothing to confess they won't put it, thieving or 2 thinking, they won't put it they'll stap nating)

Kavaluku - Menum's sickness
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(we have a familiy with a child where the mother and child put thinking for sickness and they are good. our hevi is this some men hit him and we put our thinking before the leaders and the hevi didn't get better, the kid got worse and we've put thinking, a pig was killed and work done to make him better but it didn't work. the leaders did their work and put their mark but the hevi is still here so we're thinking that the thinking was put properly and that's what i've said)

Sibil - puzzled why child is not better
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(olim's child died but we did all the things, he put his thinking, his parents put their thinking, they put it all and we did a wanbel, we killed a pig and we said there's wanbel we said it was done and he'd get medicine and get better. that happened, but the child died and we don't know why)

Abanel - my work as a leader
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(if there's a sick person that comes i see them. i see their hevi, i see the source of it and tell them, i see it and then see their thinking i talk and give them what they should do to get better, they should do this or that i hold their hand and tell them the right way to finish the hevi)

Abanel - helping Isol with his illness
last edited Oct. 19, 2023, 2:30 p.m. by Steve

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(there was a child who had a hevi and brought it and came, he wanted to bring it, he had it. i have a big hevi that's hit me and i want to talk about it. he put his thinking and said his wrong, he heard what he needed to do to get better clearly)